Horowitz - “da Great Comeback” box set cummah (wtf?)

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To be released in August.

Track listing: CD 1 January 7, 1965, Carnegie Hall

Horowitz improvising

Bach/Busoni: Toccata, Adagio & Fugue in C major, BWV 564

Chopin: Polonaise-Fantasie in A-flat major, op. 61

Debussy: Pour les arpèges composés (Étude No. 11)

Schumann: Fantasy, op. 17 (first movement)

Chopin: Nocturne in F minor, op. 55/1

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CD 2 January 13, 1965, Carnegie Hall

Moszkowski: Practicing Etude, op.72/11

Chopin: Nocturne, op. 55/1

Schumann: Fantasy, op. 17

Debussy: Étude pour leshuitdoigts (not complete)

Chopin: Mazurka, op. 56/3

Chopin: Ballade No. 1, op. 23

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CD 3 January 26, 1965, Columbia 30th Street Studio

Chopin: Polonaise-Fantasie, op. 61

Chopin: Nocturne, op. 55/1 (plus insert 1)

Chopin: Ballade No. 1, op. 23 (plus insert 1)

Chopin: Mazurka, op. 41/2

Chopin: Mazurka, op. 33/4

Chopin: Mazurka, op. 59/3

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CD 4 April 7, 1965, Carnegie Hall

Horowitz improvising

Bach/Busoni: Toccata, Adagio & Fugue in C major, BWV 564

Scriabin: Sonata No. 9, op. 68 “Black Mass”

Schumann: Fantasy in C major, op. 17

Scarlatti: Sonata in E major, K 380 (L 23)

Rachmaninoff: Prelude in G-sharp minor, op. 32/12*

Chopin: Nouvelle Étude No. 2 in A-flat major, op. posth.

Moszkowski: Etude in A-flat major, op. 72/11

Liszt: Valse Oubliée No. 1

Chopin: Etude in F major, op. 10 No. 8 (fragment-ending)

Horowitz in conversation with the producer and playing fragments of miscellaneous works

:ho:

CD 5 April 14, 1965, Carnegie Hall

Warm up improvisations

Bach/Busoni: Toccata, Adagio & Fugue in C major, BWV 564

Schumann: Fantasy in C major, op. 17

CD 6 Scriabin: Sonata No. 9, op. 68 (Black Mass)

Scriabin: Poème in F-sharp major, op. 32/1

Chopin: Etude in F major, op. 10/8

Chopin: Mazurka in C-sharp minor, op. 30/4

Chopin: Mazurka in B minor, op. 33 No. 4

Moszkowski: Etude in A-flat major, op. 72/11

Scriabin: Etude in C-sharp minor, op. 2/1

Debussy: Serenade for the Doll

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CD 7 May 9, 1965, Carnegie Hall – live (The Historic Return)

Bach/Busoni: Toccata, Ad. & F. in C, BWV 564

Schumann: Fantasy in C major, op. 17

CD 8 Scriabin: Sonata No. 9, op. 68 (Black Mass)

Scriabin: Poème in F-sharp major, op. 32/1

Chopin: Mazurka in C-sharp minor, op. 30/4

Chopin: Etude in F major, op. 10/8

Chopin: Ballade No. 1 in G minor, op. 23

Encores:

Debussy: Serenade for the Doll

Scriabin: Étude in C-sharp minor, op. 2/1

Moszkowski: Étude, op. 72/11

Schumann: Träumerei, op. 15/7

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CD 9 November 9, 1965, Carnegie Hall

Scarlatti: 3 Sonatas [?]

Beethoven: Sonata No. 7 in D major, op. 10/ 3

Scriabin: Sonata No. 10 in C major, op. 70

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May 18, 1966, Carnegie Hall

Mozart: Sonata No. 11 in A major, K 331 (300i)

CD 10 April 5, 1966: Carnegie Hall

Horowitz improvising

Scarlatti: Sonata, L 187

Beethoven: 32 Variations in C minor

Mozart: Sonata No. 11 in A major, K 331 (300i)

Scriabin: Sonata No. 10 in C major, op. 70

CD 11 Chopin: Polonaise-Fantaisie, op. 61

Chopin: Nocturne, op. 72/1

Scarlatti: Sonata, L 23

Liszt: Valse oubliée No. 1

Mendelssohn: Song Without Words, op. 67/5

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CD 12 April 17, 1966: Carnegie Hall – live

Scarlatti: Sonata in F minor, K 481 (L 187)

Beethoven: 32 Variations in C minor, WoO 80

Mozart: Sonata No. 11 in A major, K 331 (300i)

Scriabin: Sonata No. 10 in C major, op. 70.

CD 13 Chopin: Polonaise-Fantasie in A-flat major, op. 61

Chopin: Mazurka in B minor, op. 33/4

Chopin: Mazurka in E minor, op. 72/1

Chopin: Scherzo in B minor, op. 20

Encores:

Mendelssohn: Song Without Words “The Shepherd’s Complaint”, op. 67/5

Liszt: Valse oubliée No. 1

Rachmaninoff: Étude-Tableau in D major, op. 39/9

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CD 14 & 15

June 1965, Horowitz’s Home

Interview with Abram Chasins

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They’re sitting a ton of stuff but sure, let the Yale stuff just languish.

:sob:

Hopefully the impros are worth da price of admission

#4

Has he been reincarnated in a TOP ZECRET JAP CRYOGENIC UNIT? dat’z da kind of GREAT CUMBACK to merit such excitable titling.:ho:

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#5

lol CD

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#6

The 1960s is my favourite VH decade.

This has things in it I have never heard.

#7

Dey need to get off their ass and publish da TON of 40’s-50’s material including newly uncovered stuff and the Chicago 50’s home genzui

Where is da 1944 Rach 3 with Rodzinski, a complete source was found.

Would not that be the priority?
Hard to get excited over 15 CDS with alt takes of da same program, even if it is :ho:

1965 was not his best year anyway, the 1966-1968 concerts is where it’s at but IMHO he was at his peak before 1936 and a few times in da 40’s

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#8

We have enough circulating 60’s stuff, no new interesting rep there. We have a TON of stuff from the 60’s already, how the hell is the Brahms 2 with Walter not coming out?

I’m not getting this set unless I get da :hui: credit card for a day

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#9

So how much of this 15CD box is new?

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Maybe in the next box.

I’m more excited about this. I’ve heard all there is to hear from the 30s & 40s already, except the majority of the Gradova discs - but this will have better playing. I also really don’t agree about him being best pre-1936. Technically maybe, but he was still very young then and everything was very simple and straightforward. He was a much more refined, and a much more interesting musician here in his 60s.

#11

New to you or new to me? :sunglasses:

Essentially the studio takes and the rehearsals. A few bits and pieces from them have been released earlier by CBS/Sony, but not these amounts - which look like complete or large segments from the raw session tapes.

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I agree; early Horowitz is my favourite. Some of my favourite Horowitz recordings were from his 20s (the Paganini E flat etude, valse oubliée, and 10/8). The historic return was pretty inaccurate playing. But I love the 68 video and other live recordings from around that time.

#13

So the “historical return” set is edited from these concerts? I see this set is mainly focused on a few same programs. Not sure whether I will get it…

#14

Only 1965-05-09 and 1966-04-17 are recitals here. The other Carnegie dates are rehearsals for these concerts (or patch sessions).

The 1965 recital was initially released in an edited state, but the unedited tape appeared on CD in the early or mid 00s. The 1966 recital was part of the earlier Carnegie box, where it was unedited as far as I know.

#15

CD 14 and 15 all interview or home recs of interest I wonder…

Maybe mazeppa and Don Juan in there ; )

#16

I see. Thanks!

#17

Some of these CDs seem like really short playing times. And yet again we have a Horowitz box set that duplicates stuff released in other box sets and in individual releases. In other words it includes significant padding just so the set can stick to a theme and artificially increase the cost for collectors who already have these things anyways in the other iterations. Happy to have any new Horowitz but hate getting squeezed when other valuable material languishes.

I am looking forward to a sequel release “Horowitz 1983 - The Cracked Antique Concerts” and maybe “Horowitz - The Post-Electric Shock Therapy Rehearsals”. It seems these are more likely than getting the Yale stuff at this point.

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#18

I think the 30’s stuff is extra elegant and super smooth… just a more pleasant tone and almost no mannerisms.

That is da ultimate :ho: fo ma taste

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It depends on how edited the tapes are (and my guess from this description would be not very edited). To me this looks like around 12 hours worth of new 1960s Horowitz. :+1:

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#20

I like my Horowitz unhinged with some of the neurosis.

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