Truuuu. I realize dat da communist system actually is a fuckin cancer
Lol, Iām probably a communist tbh. Iām somewhere in that general region, just completely without the authoritarian angle.
For the record, Stalin and Lenin were cunts. 
Is communism possible without da:
Forced labor + ruthless control over opposition?
Da Vent recommended some really good reading material on this general matter a while back. Iāll try to find the link.
Iām fairly knowledgeable on history of the era but far from an authority. What happened in Russia in 1917 etc was that a brutal, repressive system was overthrown, and itās probably a natural consequence that if youāre completely replacing one economic system with another one, force is required, and people arenāt going to be benevolent leaders, theyāre going to be the ruthless cunts who got to the top of the new movement. So their implementation was always going to result in something nasty. I hold the view that communism isnāt repressive per se, but the consequence of revolutions almost always is.
This is my bible and by the author Da Vent mentioned. Iām not going to paraphrase-summarise it, because that would be leading, but if you donāt have a lot to do atm and want to read it, please do and formulate your own conclusions.
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I donāt think Communism is inherently bad at all, in fact it seems more of a fundamentally āgoodā system than Capitalism. But the times it has been attempted in history has always been derailed into a ruthless dictatorship. This is why most people are leery of communism.
Capitalism has always been ruthless as well but mostly in terms of āsucks to be born poorā ruthless instead of āblow your brains outā ruthless.
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Yes I agree, but I have my suspicions that this is a. a commentary on the sort of people who want to run places and b. because communism is not the global norm thus subject to external pressures seeking to undermine it, thus causing a cyclical shift to ruthlessness.
(My point there being that if communism were the norm, capitalist countries would need to be similarly authoritarian to keep going.)
Yes, that is the justification given by Lenin for his rather iron fisted policies.
However I must argue that Capitalism would be much easier to put into place even if Communism was the norm since it is signifcantly easier to exploit human greed versus human compassion. Another reason why it took dictatorships to enforce Communism is because itās hard to get people to think of anybody other than themselves or their loved ones.
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Lenin was also just seeking to find an apologist rationale for his dictatorial tendencies. Imo he was not the right leader, just the most ruthless.
It is also fair to say that the West tried very hard to undermine him; I think thereās a legit possibility that a more laissez faire approach from the west combined with a more moderate individual in charge might have had better results.
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This is a good point. I donāt completely want to preempt the contents of the book I linked above, but I feel that as humans have evolved technologically they have also become more selfish, or more accurately, less prone to altruism.
Right. The more nice things that are available to buy, the more that one wants to able to purchase said nice things.
Itās easy to imagine Communism in the Stone Age since there wasnāt much anybody could do with accumulated wealth.
Also, the collective social entity was under more direct threat, so symbiotic behaviour was of more evident benefit, but now I really am getting into the above book 
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I must say that there are altruistic concepts to Capitalism as well. The drive to make more money should theoretically urge producers to create better products/better service and increase the quality of living for everybody.
However, people will exploit this and resort to embezzlement, laundering, cheating and knockoffs, which is the downsideājust as how there are ways to exploit Communism, which we know all too well.
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I would generally say that Marxism is in part driven by an attempt, Iām not going to judge whether it is successful or not, to place economics within a moral framework (his most famous maxim ie āfrom each according to his ability, to each according to his needsā strikes me as a moral foundation), whereas modern day capitalism, at least, is theoretically driven autonomously by the workings of āthe free marketā and it as a force is abstract and neither moral nor amoral, in the same sense that morality does not apply to laws of maths etc. 2+2=4, thereās no wrong or right in that.
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I wanna make a cuntribution to da communizm/capitalizm dizcuzzion: 
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That Mao always cracks me up.
āGreat ballz of firahā
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Oh man. Thatās the clueless consumer of mass-produced classical music. Any questions about NYC? Yeah, I thought so.
Luckily, Poon fans are more erudite