D auniversal problem of da thirds and sixths

Community Tech discuzzion
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dey r a pain in da ass, tru…

kinda awkward to play, and requires finger independence…

wut i do is, I am playing scales in thirds, which kinda helps it, and also practiceing some parts of da thirds chopet slowly, but dat is gonna take forever to get my thirds better than it is now.

I am not a total noob at thirds, but my playing is not verygood eitrher…

the same goes for sixths, which to me r da hardest…i wud love to learn da 15-1 nocturne, but i cant because of da sixths middle section…

wut r some ACTUALLY good exercises for thirds and sixths? da hanon is total shit, trust me…

and btw, I still dun nderstand da “right” concept of slow practice…u must practice da movements slowly, not da notes slowly…wtf…can someone TRULY and DEEPLY explai this to me? i am lost…

so how do i practice da 10-1 chopet slowly right? not just playing it in a slower tempo and eventually speeding up?

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hahahaha da CHANG

a bit bullsheeyat.

Juz prax zlowly den aim fo zpeed, forget diz philozophical :dong:

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I am listening to da Lhevinne rec of da thirds chopet right now…and dying of envy…

best rec of any “thirds” performance ever, tru…what control…

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just learn the paganini variations.

5

o rly?

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Who’z?

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holy shit, I just read in wiki dat chopin intended da 10-2 to be played only with the 4rth and fifth finger, and not the third finger as all pianists play…but because of the extreme difficulty, he let it slide and allowed the use of the third finger for thr chromaticism…

WTF!!! was chopin INSANE???

and another random thing, da ashkenazy refused to play da 10-1 in public because he said it is da hardest of da etudes…lol

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question: is da thirds chopet harder than any thirds passage in da pimp don juan?

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haha, fuck off
y00’z juzt waztin tym praxin movementz y00’z nevah gonna uze

zo, me tellz da zecret: FIRZT PRACTIZE AFAP, DEN ZLOW DOWN, BUT UZE DA EXACT ZAME MOVEMENTZ, JUZT MO ZLOWLY

den, me tellz anotha zecret: U DUN NEED TO PRAX ZLOWLY IF U DUN WANNA PLAY ZMOOTHLY N M*ZICLY

ðuz, y00 nevah need to prax zlowly if y00 aim iz to gev a ZD perf

dat’z it

:chop: :stop:

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well, I actually wanna make music, and not just be an idiotic imbecile who cannot control his fingers…much like da Dongah…the personification of SDC…

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HAHAHAHAH man, wat da fukkkkkkkkk, wtf doez zlow prac haff to do wit movement? u zlow prac to learn da notez u fockah.

If u want to learn da movementz, u prax at ZPEED, no uze in tryin to prax zlowly n keep da “zpeed movementz” tiz juzt not da zame.

alzo, if dere iz a dif between playin da fazet movementz zlow, n juzt playin zlw, den u juzt dun noe how to play zlw

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weehee
me dun care if me dun noe haw ta play zlwly
but methinxez u juz dunno haw ta play FAZT

n yoo learn da notez befohnd, mentally
den yoo prax at ZPD
den u can uze zlw praxin to fine-tune yoo mvmntz
extra-zlw praxin iz fo teztin yoo memry
:comme: :doc: :stop:

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hahahahahha ic

what about praxin handz coordination? shudnt diz be done zl*w?

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3rdz iz 3rdz, if u can play variouz kindz of zcalez in 3rdz, den bazically deze vil be eazy to learn da notez

maztarin 3rdz in general iz a long procezz

azcendin 3rdz(rh) iz alot hardah den dezcendin 3rdz, becuz azcendin dependz mo upon dex

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pozzibly, if yoo wanna yoor handz be exactly coordinated even in da moz fiendizh passgz
btu dat’z da fine-tjunin part, ahgayn :doc: :stop:

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haha, fo moi tiz exactly teh poopozite
moi actually findz azcending 3rdz pretty eazy
zame þing fo da azcending zcalez in 10/2
they’re mozly eazy
but da dezcending onez bite moi :rudy: :stop:

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hahahaha DAIM :god:

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ascending 3rds are indeed, illogically as it is, easier.

all the descending scales in 25/6 are the hardest parts of the piece.

it’s easier to aim your hand/wrist to the upper right than to the left when you play thirds. aiming your hand and wrist correctly makes thirds scales so much easier, but since aiming is hard descending, i think that’s why descending is harder.

it also depends on what “voice” you bring out blablabla

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hahaha it seems da comme delete my anti-sdc post that had some anti-dongah in it tru…

:comme: :dong:

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SO true

I hate the descending runs,

my god, the one on the 2nd page with the weird leps for the thumb… can’t stand it.

I found it helps to have top voices going legato when up, and trying to bring out the bottom voices and make them legato going down, but you probably already know this.

What practice techniques have you found particularly helpful for this etude?