Let me put it this way....

right here, mofo

intoclassics.net/

They are too polite to be the true equivalent of this place. There must be a more underground site which is as spastic as this one :pimp:

it’s only on the dark web 8)

da pedoplate runs it 8)

The video broadcast should be here, and if so it will be saved on the website afterwards

http://meloman.ru/online/

They broadcast many concerts from the Tchaikovsky Hall. Afanassiev played Beethoven PC 4 a few days ago. They’re saved under the tab ‘National Digital Concert Hall’

On a pianistic level I don’t have any more interest in Pogorelich, but as a person and character, and how he develops post-trauma, I still follow him. This is a new one (to me) of the Schumann Fantaisie, not sure of location, Italy I guess, quite different from the one I recorded in Rotterdam in 2014. It’s not healthy for him, but I’d rather hear his 2005 sensibility than how he plays these days.

https://vimeo.com/226652506

It’s sad. What Pogorelich did in recital 1984-1991 (and rarely a few years before and after) have among the most incredible playing I’ve heard from anyone sitting at a piano. I mean who would have believed it would end like this back in 1990? I still follow him too, in the sense that I try to hear at least one recording of each new program he adds, but I have no idea why. The last thing he did which held any merit in my opinion was the three Granados dances he played in 1998. That’s approaching 20 years now. We’ll never get him back.

He really went off the deep end, nyiregyhazi (aka da Nazi) style

What I find really interesting about your opinion of his decline is that you start it from so early in the '90s. I love his Mussorgsky Pictures and that’s from what, '97?

haha this forum is awesome

Tru, da name is just to long so we go N$&(xyz HAZY
OR JUST - Nazi 8)

1994-1996. I love them as well, but from around 1991 I don’t think he was as consistent anymore. He was clearly rocked by the world events at the time, and I suspect this was also about when he learned his wife had terminal cancer, which I bet didn’t help either.

I think his Carnegie recital with the Pictures (1994) incidentally gives an idea of what went on in his head at this time. In many recitals 1991-1996 I think he merely sounds off, but that one has the most furious piano playing I’ve heard from anyone for 90 minutes straight. He’s just tearing through those works, with the most mind-boggling technical feats happening almost accidentally along the way. Fast forward just a few weeks however, and you have him sounding confused and insecure instead. He clearly needed the break he took in 1997, even if… he emerged from it as a permanently broken human being. And that’s when off and insecure had turned in to the complete dissolution of what was once a towering musical figure.

Is the Pogo Carnegie 94 available to listen to complete? I only saw a video snippet on youtube.

My theory is that if you get the recording from Christian, out of respect for him you won’t be able to put it on Youtube. Not even if you find the same recording later from a different source. Therefore it’s better not to get the recording from a friendly trusted source, and to search and hope that one day you will find it on your own, which then would allow you to put it onto Youtube for everyone, which is the ultimate goal of using a computer as far as I can tell.

Sorry if you read all that but that’s what I think. :orgy: <—orgy

Thanks Christian, that was exceedingly interesting.

If anyone ever sees any upcoming online broadcasts of Pletnev, Babayan, Sokolov or Leschenko, please let me know here.

Orfey will broadcast a 90 minute collection of Naum Shtarkman recordings, hopefully some unreleased, on 28 September to celebrate what would have been his 90th.

I also hope to get upcoming Temirkanov and Ormandy in SU broadcasts next week, and the Kissin recital on 1 Oct.

I did record the recent Vazgen Vartanian broadcast last week, and the Gilels / Ravel left hand, which maybe (I don’t know) sounds a bit better than what was available before. If anyone wants anything you can always let me know. Just internet quality.

Am I missing something?

Seconded. For me those are just about the most interesting living pianists, even if not always my favorite (especially in the case of Leschenko). Actually Sokolov is less interesting to me these days than he used to be, but I’m always curious to hear what he does.

Pletnev seems a different pianist these days.
I prefer the old Pletnev, but maybe I just need to get used to it.

I respectfully disagree with xcdc. I’ve never liked Pogorelich, and I think even from the very start (so before any so-called mental health issues) I though his playing was often twisted, unnatural, bizarre or one-dimensional from a musical point of view (though pianistically sometimes stunning). So I have to agree with wat S. Richter wrote in his diaries about Pogo, and he heard him in the 1980s.

Same here. Sokolov is really dividing opinions these days - one of my oldest friends in the music world, and a die-hard Sokolov fan, declared after a recital with him earlier this year that he’s essentially useless and that he’ll only attend further recitals with him to record them for us. I on the other hand… feel he’s more exciting now than he’s ever been, or at the very least since the 1990s. I think his playing is more natural, more simple, more humane, and more beautiful than it’s ever been before (after 2015 that is).

Funny he and Pogo should end up next to eachother in a thread like this incidentally. I guess the conclusion you can draw from them is that pianists losing their wives won’t ever be the same again. At least Sokolov recovered and came back as a better man (IMO…), whereas I still don’t know what the hell happened to Pogo.

All agreed. =) A top notch Pogo recital leaves you astonished, fascinated, offended, amazed, rocked and magnetized - with one polarization or the other - but if you expected to sit back and hear agreeable interpretations and beautiful piano playing you’re at the wrong concert. He will challenge every norm you have in music, and if you let him he’ll leave you breathless in the process.

Case in point: youtu.be/FwC0EUqb4ug

One thing that’s never in question was his mechanism.
I have to admit it was pretty bad for my health to listen to him play the Chopin F minor concerto while I was working on it. :stop: