# Pazzagez that dont zound wikid but randomly inzanely difficult

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**Category:** Repertoire\
**Created:** [December 4, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908 "2020-12-04T21:30:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![dachoo42](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/dachoo42/32/6554_2.png) [@dachoo42](https://www.dasdc.net/u/dachoo42)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/1 "2020-12-04T21:30:11Z")

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Randomly, haz anybody here ever played Kreizleriana?

Two sectionz I find inzanely difficult to play properly but dun look or zound hard at all

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZHcerNk7qg&t=1594s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZHcerNk7qg&t=1594s)

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZHcerNk7qg&t=1751s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZHcerNk7qg&t=1751s)

Iz da oppozite of “three-handz” technique becauze when Pimp doez it it zounds like three handz but only requirez two handz, when Shoe doez it it sounds like two handz but actually requirez three handz

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**Author:** ![Dr.TM](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/dr.tm/32/61676_2.png) [@Dr.TM](https://www.dasdc.net/u/Dr.TM)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/2 "2020-12-04T21:51:20Z")

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Truuu.

I’d say, da Chopin Op 10/2 is da best example of a fuckah dat dun sound THAT wikid (like a slowish Bumblebeeach unless you’re da :trugod: ) but is a risky COCK to unleash live.

Da Brahms piano writing in his chamber music sound ghey as FUCK yet is very hard and totally unrewarding to rape while staring up at da fuckin score, while the douche string players rush yo azz

🖕

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**Author:** ![Dr.TM](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/dr.tm/32/61676_2.png) [@Dr.TM](https://www.dasdc.net/u/Dr.TM)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/3 "2020-12-04T21:52:11Z")

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> [@dachoo42](#):
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> Randomly, haz anybody here ever played Kreizleriana?

I worked on it… found it way too repetitive to enjoy…

Far prefer da Carnaval

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**Author:** ![dachoo42](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/dachoo42/32/6554_2.png) [@dachoo42](https://www.dasdc.net/u/dachoo42)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/4 "2020-12-04T21:57:26Z")

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Chopet 10/2 for zure…and once I played da Bra 2nd Violin zon piano part and it iz fucking rough

Paganini in da Carnaval sheeyat alzo a handfuck without zounding that wikid

Actually almozt nothing in Shoe zoundz wikid, which iz why mozt people get turned off by him

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**Author:** ![Dr.TM](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/dr.tm/32/61676_2.png) [@Dr.TM](https://www.dasdc.net/u/Dr.TM)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:01pm UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/5 "2020-12-04T22:01:15Z")

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I love da Shoe Carnaval.

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**Author:** ![Harrison](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/harrison/32/70890_2.png) [@Harrison](https://www.dasdc.net/u/Harrison)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/6 "2020-12-04T22:36:39Z")

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> [@Dr.TM](#):
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> Da Brahms piano writing in his chamber music sound ghey as FUCK yet is very hard and totally unrewarding to rape while staring up at da fuckin score, while the douche string players rush yo azz

dis da fuckin TRUTH - da TRUMOFO knows

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**Author:** ![Dr.TM](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/dr.tm/32/61676_2.png) [@Dr.TM](https://www.dasdc.net/u/Dr.TM)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/7 "2020-12-04T22:45:49Z")

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String players at first rehearsal “no no, it’s SO MUCH easier to play when it’s faster!”

:dong:

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**Author:** ![dachoo42](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/dachoo42/32/6554_2.png) [@dachoo42](https://www.dasdc.net/u/dachoo42)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/8 "2020-12-04T22:56:16Z")

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Yknow for a long time I thought Kreizleriana waz Shoe’s mozt boring piece but I have grown to enjoy it…

I alzo think Carnaval one of da top five Shoe workz

:pimp: thought Carnaval waz better than da Diabelli variationz

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**Author:** ![Dr.TM](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/dr.tm/32/61676_2.png) [@Dr.TM](https://www.dasdc.net/u/Dr.TM)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/9 "2020-12-04T22:56:57Z")

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> [@dachoo42](#):
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> I thought Kreizleriana waz Shoe’s mozt boring piece but I have grown to enjoy it…

It certainly is not boring. I’m irked by some of the (excessive) repeats…

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**Author:** ![Slava\_Pogorowitz](https://www.dasdc.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@Slava\_Pogorowitz](https://www.dasdc.net/u/Slava_Pogorowitz)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 11:34pm UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/10 "2020-12-04T23:34:47Z")

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My current favorite Zhoe zong iz da Fantasiestücke.

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**Author:** ![ElGordito](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/elgordito/32/79771_2.png) [@ElGordito](https://www.dasdc.net/u/ElGordito)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/11 "2020-12-04T23:41:42Z")

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I can’t get into the Humoreske tho thats a lot of savvy mofos fav

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**Author:** ![dachoo42](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/dachoo42/32/6554_2.png) [@dachoo42](https://www.dasdc.net/u/dachoo42)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/12 "2020-12-04T23:42:39Z")

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Which one? There iz Op.12, Op.73, Op.88, and Op.111

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**Author:** ![dachoo42](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/dachoo42/32/6554_2.png) [@dachoo42](https://www.dasdc.net/u/dachoo42)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 11:43pm UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/13 "2020-12-04T23:43:22Z")

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Only a lot of repeated material in the 2nd piece in da zet

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**Author:** ![ElGordito](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/elgordito/32/79771_2.png) [@ElGordito](https://www.dasdc.net/u/ElGordito)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/14 "2020-12-04T23:44:25Z")

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Des Abends one of those pieces that stop time in da hall when perf’d

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**Author:** ![Slava\_Pogorowitz](https://www.dasdc.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@Slava\_Pogorowitz](https://www.dasdc.net/u/Slava_Pogorowitz)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/15 "2020-12-04T23:47:01Z")

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my bad, Op. 12

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**Author:** ![dachoo42](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/dachoo42/32/6554_2.png) [@dachoo42](https://www.dasdc.net/u/dachoo42)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 12:00am UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/16 "2020-12-05T00:00:50Z")

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I played both Op.12 and da Op.73, both incredible. Op.12 is underrated because it’s not a singular narrative.

Randomly Traumez Wirren in Op.12 really fuckz up your 4th and 5th fingerz

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**Author:** ![Dr.TM](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/dr.tm/32/61676_2.png) [@Dr.TM](https://www.dasdc.net/u/Dr.TM)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 12:13am UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/17 "2020-12-05T00:13:01Z")

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Tru, not da biggest bang for da buck, in terms of effort

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**Author:** ![jaynescummings](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/jaynescummings/32/6806_2.png) [@jaynescummings](https://www.dasdc.net/u/jaynescummings)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 1:13am UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/18 "2020-12-05T01:13:13Z")

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For me it’s the first couple of pages of Chopin 4th ballad. I’ve never known what to do there.

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**Author:** ![Dr.TM](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/dr.tm/32/61676_2.png) [@Dr.TM](https://www.dasdc.net/u/Dr.TM)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 1:14am UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/19 "2020-12-05T01:14:49Z")

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Ah yes… SO many repeats.

For that reason, I consider it to be the “weakest” ballade.

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**Author:** ![Publius](https://www.dasdc.net/user_avatar/www.dasdc.net/publius/32/1836_2.png) [@Publius](https://www.dasdc.net/u/Publius)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://www.dasdc.net/t/pazzagez-that-dont-zound-wikid-but-randomly-inzanely-difficult/28908/20 "2020-12-05T02:04:42Z")

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> [@jaynescummings](#):
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> For me it’s the first couple of pages of Chopin 4th ballad. I’ve never known what to do there.

Play it in octaves.

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