Why Don't More Classical Musicians Impro?

I really don’t mind it, but I’m just… ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I agree with Dr. Mofo that this is too attention-demanding to be background music however. And I agree with myself that classical pianists should stay away from it if nothing else for the simple reason that 99% of them can’t play these things the way jazz pianists can.

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I got my pianistic education in a conservatory where classical students and jazz students were as miles apart as today’s Labour- and Conservative voters.
There’s a lot of jazz-influence in some 20th century composers, and no doubt there are classical elements in jazz performance.
But to my knowledge, pianists who have successfully combined both worlds in their performing career have been (and still are) pretty rare.

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Man. I like da lightness, his beautiful textures, left hand voicing. Subtle rhythm. Da swing. Da RH sheeyats. N da fact dat he took dat Rosetta tune n ELEVATED it.

To each his own, mofo. I adore Tatum and wish we had way more vids.

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I cumpare 88 impro to

improvizational theatre zheeyatz
I went once n it wuz wikid n cg

But wud I go every week n replace moviez by it ? :lib: :sunglasses:

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If we’re talkin raw, intenze emotional impact, maybe Tatum izn’t your bezt bet. “Jazz” iz az varied a genre az “clazzical” or “rock” or wutevah.

Perzonally I don’t think I’ve ever had a clazzical piece haff da zame kind of impact on me dat wut I get from zum zpecific jazz artiztz. Foh example (headphonez n HD n all that sheeyat):

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HAHAHAH da zepp juz wanna zay:

DAYUM i iz imprezzed by da INZANE ZPEED of diz topic :icon_stopw_sdc_473: :sunglasses:

tiz lyk

i c a pardickulah pozt worth rezpondin to, n by da tym i write up a reply, dat pozt iz already burried by 20 nu poztz FUCK :sunglasses:

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:sunglasses:

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I understand, and that is why I pointed out that it was comparable to the minute waltz. That Coltrane piece didn’t move me that much. Other jazz music, however, moves me more

You are talking about piano playing, not music

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Miles Davis’ Pharaoh’s Dance, now that’s some kick ass shit

Hahaha no :sunglasses:

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Hahaha yez

Ignorance iz blizz :sunglasses:

Tru enjoy yo ztate ov blizz :sunglasses:

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So in 100 years, jazz has been able to do what classical music has done in 1 000 years? And jazz musicians can make up music on the spot that is better than Beethoven 9, Mahler 8 and Prokok 5. Wow, jazz musicians are just genuises

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The more I think of it, the more I realise that this fetishation of imrpovisation is more about hero-worship/idolization, and less about Music. Instead of going “Wow, this music is amaing”, you go “Wow, it is amazing how the musician has just made this up on the spot”, thereby shifting the focus from the emotional impact of the music (which is what music is about) to the abilities of the musician (which is what music is NOT about). This is probably the reason why some people listen to classical music and get annoyed because it is not improvised (“He has just practiced a lot, where is the improvisation?”. if you cared about the music you would focus on the music and not on the improvisation.

Disclaimer: Liking jazz more than classical music is perfectly fine. But I would assume that would be based on not liking the music, not on the fact that classical music mostly is not improvised. Of course improvisation can be fun, creative, amazing and everything else. Classical musicians are mostly like actors, or servants of a Composer - and I don’t see anything wrong with that

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Hahah n wut about a piece lyk diz

wikid but a jazz penizt cudnt juz impro diz zpecialized tech :dong:

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Tiz classical music with some nice jazzy rhythms thrown in
Nice to listen to…foh juz once. :wink:
I think Nancarrow had much more musical inventiveness
In terms of wikid rhythms, harmonies, Bachian counterpoint
(Listen to studies 3a/e)

I think this is my best impro, and it is pure impro, completely spontaneous. Audio isn’t super quality, but if I write this out as a legitimate acompo it is sufficiently nearly finished that I will change very little.

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HAHAHAHA but to be fair to da FAKE n CANDAIN

I wud ratha lizten to zum wikid jazz den a zheeyat lyk diz :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hqPwS9QCcA

wut a load ov zheeyat :sunglasses:

cue da MEF cummah to zay tiz a maztapiece :dong:

Hahahaha da only wikid zheeyat iz dat tiz zponzahd

by ROLEX :watch:

rezpec :sunglasses: