Just curious as to what everyone opinion is of the most overrated and underrated piano concertos are. Mine are as follows:
Over:
Rach 3
Rach 2
Grieg
Under:
SCRIABIN!!!
Hummel A minor
Kancerto (if that counts)
Just curious as to what everyone opinion is of the most overrated and underrated piano concertos are. Mine are as follows:
Over:
Rach 3
Rach 2
Grieg
Under:
SCRIABIN!!!
Hummel A minor
Kancerto (if that counts)
disagreed
underatd prick 5
I wouldnāt say the Rachs are overrated, simply overplayed.
Underrated:
Bort 1
Mozkowski
Medtner 1 and 2
Scriabin
Liszt 2nd
Mendelssohn 2
Henselt
Marx (Joseph, not Karl)
Dvorak
Saint Saens 4 and 5
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I wouldnāt say the Rachs are overrated, simply overplayed.
Agreed, there is a big difference.
Also re Bort for some reason I think the 2nd and third are stronger than the first.
The cadenza from the 1st concerto kicks so much ass, though.
Wish there were better recordings of the 2nd and 3rd.
Some interesting choices. I donāt really agree about the SS 4, randomly never heard my interest compared to the others. Havenāt heard enough of 5 to have much of an opinion, but will get back to you on that. Definitely agree with the Dvorak. I remember listening to richter play it and it was gorgeous. Iāll have to admit tho, half of your list I havenāt really listened to lol
About the rach 3, Iāve tried (really tried) to listen to a bunch of recordings of it, different pianists. Even some of the so called āgood onesā just left feelingā¦ehh. The cadenza isnāt bad, start of third movement has some fury, but I am left about the same as I did going in to it. The rach 2 is a little better, but outside of the first movement, the other two movements are a little underwhelming.
The Prik 5 wears out itās welcome a little with the 5 movements and all, but def doesnāt deserve itās āProkofiev made 5 concertos?ā status. Some good gensui throughout.
if they can be counted as concerti,
Strauss Burleskse
Szymanowski Sinfonia Concertante
Scriabin Prometheus
under:
Mozart K449
Why not Medtner 3?
da zharwankah haf much gensui n fury
Never grabbed me much, but then again the only recording Iāve heard is Demidenkoās.
yeah, the 3rd is my favourite although I had to give it more of a chance than the other two (the first didnāt initially appeal to me either). But all 3 are now some of my favouritesā¦
I reckon Tozerās is the best no.3, I think itās pretty awesome.
Also, whatās a decent rec of Tchaikovsky 3rd concerto? (just the one movement). I have Hough & Pletnev, and have heard Tozerās.
I think itās just a shame because Pletnevās rec has such a skewed balance so the piano is sometimes barely audible. Tozerās is probably my favourite there tooā¦
Thanks for the tip, Iāll definitely check out Tozerās.
tozer pretty much owned all three medtner concertos. demidenko is an absolute joke, if you ask me. scherbakov is decent, though. i would say that medtnerās 3rd is a tough nut to crack, but is a wonderful work once you warm up to it.
its a shame that more people arent mentioning more modern concertos as being underrated. many of them just get played a few times and then just fall into obscurity, even if they are of high quality. they will become the obscure piano concertos that people will talk about in 50-100 years, just as we talk so much about these obscure romantic piano concertos today.
tha PENDAH - cello con 1
not zho if itz undahratd or juz undahzheeyatd but tiz one of mah fav zheeyatz by tha mofo
tha PENDAH - cello con 1
not zho if itz undahratd or juz undahzheeyatd but tiz one of mah fav zheeyatz by tha mofo
Pendah??
Penderecki
Tompilk: Try Gilels, Donohoe, Postnikova and Leonskaja for Tchaik 3.
tha PENDAH - cello con 1
not zho if itz undahratd or juz undahzheeyatd but tiz one of mah fav zheeyatz by tha mofo
agreed. pendereckiās cello concerto is simply one of the most furious pieces ever written for any (combination of) instrument(s). shame that only 2 people have recorded it. it sounds different every time its played, as with much of pendereckiās early music.
two concerti I would play if I were a pro (and had the opportunity): Ruby 3 and 4. Love them. I used to be crazy about the Henselt but now I think itās probably too calorie heavy since thereās a lot of piano āaccompanimentā.