Who would you pick?
Well if I’m going to measure hype / acclaim against what I hear, it would have to be YW. At least in certain repertoire, and at least post, I don’t know, maybe 2015? I know XSDC loved her Schumann/Beethoven recital but for me that really pointed up the distinction in hype / merit. Her recent Chopin PC 1 (or 2?) also.
LL & Yundi don’t get quite the acclaim they used to get, AFAICT.
Matsuev would be another pick, maybe before YW. That guy’s a hammer.
Wang has done lots of trash. She’s also done lots of excellent things. I think she’s where she should be.
Agreed on Matsuev, and also that LL maybe isn’t the superstar anymore he was 5-10 years ago.
Pollini.
Trifonov
Historically also Paderewski, Kissin, Brendel. Hmmm. Sofronitsky.
Khatia Buniatishvili?
Pozz accurate? She’s ~ok~ at least, and she doesn’t have superstar status. Maybe a bit above.
And I can yield that Wang is pozz a bit above too.
She definitely has superstar status, going by Facebook likes and Youtube views.
Francois maybe? I think he’s fine, but not that fine.
Haskil. Same reasoning.
Lipatti a little bit, though I’ll add an IMO. He was very good, but I think martyrdom maybe took him a few notches above where he would have been otherwise.
I felt the need to check out one of my betes-noires.
I defy anyone who knows this piece to avoid laughing around 3 mins.
Fuck’s sake. All the charm and seductiveness of a robot SS guard.
Got to the end. It got worse, if anything. I would have walked out. Disgusting playing.
At his best he’s a great pianist. It’s hard to say though, because it’s a question of « overrated by whom? ». I think all pianists are overrated by their fanatics, including Sokolov, Wang and Cziffra.
I think Brendel has done some excellent things too. IMO he’s overrated by the masses, underrated by pianophiles.
Ohohoooo here we go:
Maxim
When you use the term overrated in the context of them rating that pianist far above others?
Cziffra is my favourite pianist but I don’t like him in everything and his repertoire doesn’t cover a fraction of the music I enjoy.
Hamelin could be argued as overrated among pianophiles but if you bear in mind he is a specializer in rare rep - he literally dominates with his recordings of most of those. He has little competition in that rep, true, but there are some really stellar white-hot recordings among them.
I think about overrated here in relation to their public reputation, as it were, as I perceive it. I don’t think either of the ones I’ve brought up are bad pianists (maybe Pad, Pol…), just that their reputation isn’t in proportion to what they’ve done at the piano.
I actually find it easier to make a case for that Hamelin is underrated than that he’s overrated. He does have his limitations, and I think his rep choice was a good move both for him and for us, but he’s one of the great originals of our time and at his best he’s as impressive as any pianist I know. I am absolutely positive he will be remembered and listened to long after his death. And yet he’s never been that self-evident pianist for the main halls in cities - up here in S we (they…) are very conservative, but he’s been invited exactly once. And that was to play the Paganini Rhapsody. Carnegie also came very late, he’s not a regular in Paris, and so on.
…on the other hand, these are the words of a doc fan. When I ran my youtube channel I actually struggled to find things from him I thought were good enough, and among my music friends only two think he’s any good.
But I don’t care. He’s great and it doesn’t matter how he plays. Period.
You mention his death and this is where the problem lies - as I said in the repertoire he’s played he is dominant partially due to the lack of competition but as time passes - there will be other great Alkan recordings, etc. So will he shine so much given this risk?
His Alkan Concerto is just unsurpassed. absolutely thrilling, but as he ages I do wonder what his legacy will be.
Yes, I think so. IMO he’s not just good in relation to the competition, but in absolute terms, and he has a distinct personality and original playing style. He doesn’t disappear in the noise as it were. I do think that when the Steve & the Chris of 2118 probe historical pianists, Hamelin will be one of the brightest shining stars of our time.
Period.
Randomly I love Moiseiwtsch playing the Wagner-Pimp Isolde’s Death/repressed orgasm - in a purely unapologetic penizdick way.
Da color dat mofo gets out of da instrument will always captivate da TM more den any Chinese chick pozz
It depends how you balance it out. I know you judge by the best a pianist has done, so you’d keep her up there. For me the large number of anonymous / styleless performances would bring her down to…regular professional concert pianist level, i.e. still elite, just not the next saviour.
I like da Wang but not in Chopin.