I’d have to do a lot of analytical thinking tbh. It’s a very ingrained facility; probably the absolute foundation lies in harmony above other elements.
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Ahahahah da BRU dizcuzzin impro wiz mofoz who actually impro effortlezzly lyk da FEZTINMOFO, icic 
But da BRU zeem determined to prove hiz theziz dat ‘no penizt today cud impro fo zheeyat’
I zenze a zlitely triggahed vibe here
but triggahed by wut exactly… 
Tru in any caze i think da bezt option fo da BRU iz to juz
ignore da zepp
This also a very fair point imo. A lot of Chopinesque filigree ornamentation strikes me as being essentially “notated improvisation” over whatever accompaniment is going on.
I just remember from school that many of the pianists with perfect pitch used it to “peek” around the corner; they could always tell where the music was headed.
Impro = unedited compo
Compo = edited impro
Greatnezz ov improvitional zkill derefore iz da ZAME az compo zkill
UNLEZZ u iz zayin dat da gensui ov a certain compoza cummah from deir…editin zkillz?
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Your spidey sense is wrong as usual. I have an opinion so I’ll express it.
And yes I will continue to ignore you.
Exactly.
The thing is… I kinda suspect this is correct in a “famous mofo” context. Or maybe we just never see them do it, so we think they can’t?
Da KAT iz great tech-wize in hiz improz, but they’re not that inspiring as “zpontaneouz” creation. I feel I know exactly what he’z doing, and harzhly, wut that is is processing cliches.
I have no idea how the second is achieved, do you mean “free improvisation”? Do you absolutely know that Chopin’s improvisations where of this magical second kind? Or perhaps the “innovations” came later? Or maybe they were just “discovered” while improvising? Maybe he was improvising in the style of Bach and then something interesting came out of it. Something that so many jazzers have done before, btw, at least in terms of establishing a “style”. We are I guess talking about tonal music which was pretty much all there from the time of Bach, so to speak.
Also, X, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6z96noBO7A, do you think there is no narrative, no story here?
In any case, I disagree with this exaltation of the classical masters as the only people able to “truly” improvise. Perhaps because I have more interest in Jazz?
No THIS is not what I said, but you have make the distinction jazz/classical and that they’re two very different beasts. Just look at the history if nothing else. 130 years of recordings and as far as I know anyway there’s no shortage of great jazz improvisers on record. With “classical” however…………………? 
It’s simply way more difficult to do it well, or at least in any meaningful way.
Hahaha when he zay zpontaniouz impro he mean da zame az when he zpontaniouzly decide which ready made meal he haf in hiz fridge to microwave
But I ztill argue dat da fact he microwave dem fo each perf dun mean he didn craft gensui when he firz cumpiled da ingredientz n zhaped up da tazty dizh 
Which raises the question, which I posed before: what is classical improvisation, and how is it different from jazz?
I’ve already written a WoT about it above?
Exactly. Part of the gensui of improv is the elements you choose to prepare. Your “style” as it were.
Hahah but tiz tru dat da KAT choozez zectz 2 minz long dat he prepared note fo note, da only element ov impro iz da orda ov which zectz he unleazh
I suspect he has a pretty good idea of what material he’s gonna use, a general pre-planned structure, and the details of the ornamentation are somewhat up to chance but will fit within the overall framework.
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Hm, do you mean this?
If yes, that is definitely not unique to those people, or to classical improvisation.
Tru, calin iz zpont impro iz a bit fraudulent but I enjoy da fuck outta dem ezpecially when he bring nu material in
He haf a wikid way ov applyin nu colourful texturez to themez u heard befo
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No THIS:
In a contemporary context, I think the consensus would be that classical pianists can’t and jazz ones can. Interestingly, in his memoirs Earl Wild stated his opinion that Keith Jarrett (iirc) wasn’t really improvising, rather going through formulae, and challenged him to an impro duel which never happened!
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